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Clearing your Webtv cache
« on: April 02, 2008, 07:06:57 PM »

I remember way back in the day when I was a regular Webtv user, that those "to clear you cache just click here" links really didn't do the job. From what I remember the only way to really clear your cache was to power off and unplug for a few. There was even a demonstration on how the links really didn't work. I think that they only clear your recents but I could be wrong. If anyone remembers what I'm talking about and remembers the demonstration could you post it here? I'm finding that newer members to Webtv are thinking those clear cache links work. But they don't.

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Re: Clearing your Webtv cache
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2008, 08:25:59 PM »

I remember way back in the day when I was a regular Webtv user, that those "to clear you cache just click here" links really didn't do the job. From what I remember the only way to really clear your cache was to power off and unplug for a few. There was even a demonstration on how the links really didn't work. I think that they only clear your recents but I could be wrong. If anyone remembers what I'm talking about and remembers the demonstration could you post it here? I'm finding that newer members to Webtv are thinking those clear cache links work. But they don't.

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The demonstration page was mine. Geocities deleted my acount and that is one thing I didn't have backed up. and never recreated. I originaly used Gifworks to make the images and it was very tedious. Now days I could use PHP to crank out some images and add a built in timer.

All it was was a slide show. You would time the first run, make a note of it then time a second run. If the second run was faster, that proved that the images were cached. Sometimes a third or forth run was required to get it to load faster. If the so called cache clearers really worked, then a run after using one would be as slow as the first run because webtv would have to get fresh images from the net again instead of from the cache. Every time the test was tried, the run after the "cache clearer" was used, the time was closer to the time of the run with the images cached then when they were not.

I made a variation of that after Paul Ding said something about caching that gave me the idea. He suggested that a lot of small files might bump larger ones from the cache. That was broken when I moved from Boojam to Jasper but it should be easy to fix....

Here you go, better than the original:

Random Slide Show
http://eclecticdjs.com/mike/temp/ball/cache.html

It only works if you user it before your cache is totally locked up. The reason I hadn't fixed it earlier is because I use this instead now:

Random Laser Slide Show
http://eclecticdjs.com/mike/wtv/tools/spirograph/laser_04.php

More variety. I have some variations of that that create 3D spirographs but they take a lot of server time to render and the file size of the result is too big. They look REALLY cool though!
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Re: Clearing your Webtv cache
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2008, 10:26:37 PM »

The demonstration page was mine. Geocities deleted my acount and that is one thing I didn't have backed up. and never recreated. I originaly used Gifworks to make the images and it was very tedious. Now days I could use PHP to crank out some images and add a built in timer.

All it was was a slide show. You would time the first run, make a note of it then time a second run. If the second run was faster, that proved that the images were cached. Sometimes a third or forth run was required to get it to load faster. If the so called cache clearers really worked, then a run after using one would be as slow as the first run because webtv would have to get fresh images from the net again instead of from the cache. Every time the test was tried, the run after the "cache clearer" was used, the time was closer to the time of the run with the images cached then when they were not.

I made a variation of that after Paul Ding said something about caching that gave me the idea. He suggested that a lot of small files might bump larger ones from the cache. That was broken when I moved from Boojam to Jasper but it should be easy to fix....

Here you go, better than the original:

Random Slide Show
http://eclecticdjs.com/mike/temp/ball/cache.html

It only works if you user it before your cache is totally locked up. The reason I hadn't fixed it earlier is because I use this instead now:

Random Laser Slide Show
http://eclecticdjs.com/mike/wtv/tools/spirograph/laser_04.php

More variety. I have some variations of that that create 3D spirographs but they take a lot of server time to render and the file size of the result is too big. They look REALLY cool though!

Thanks for that Mike. I don't think it was your page I remember, but it pretty much proved the same thing. If you need to clear your cache there is only one way to do it. Power off and unplug. I don't know is something is going on with Webtv lately, but frankly it seems like it. I've been getting lots of complaints lately saying "I can't log in to the forum, or, whenever I try to login into my account the login popup keeps popping up." Seems that powering off and unpluging your box fixes those types of issues.

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Re: Clearing your Webtv cache
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2008, 07:46:01 AM »

I miss a lot of the people I met while using the LBB, but I do not miss the WebTV surfing experience. Ouch!
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Re: Clearing your Webtv cache
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2008, 08:44:07 AM »

I miss a lot of the people I met while using the LBB, but I do not miss the WebTV surfing experience. Ouch!

I had my service cancelled the end of March and I think I'm having withdrawal symptoms.  laugh

I was only posting in one ng towards the last and then not very often. I'm missing it already. Or, rather, the folks who post there.

I wasn't even using email very much. Actually except for replying to two people, I wasn't using it all! I was getting 20 or so sp*ms to one or two real emails.
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Re: Clearing your Webtv cache
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2008, 10:35:12 AM »

Re: Cache Clear... correct diagnosis above... only way to truely clear it is to power off.
I created one that still works tho... it goes something like this. <xmp><a href=client:poweroff>Click to Clear Cache</a></xmp>   rofl1

and D.J. Mike.. you might be able to retrieve some old deleted pages at www.Archive.org ... esp. if you recall the page URL

and yeah I miss the old wtv groups (a little) but maybe some of the dropouts will return here occasionally to share their wit, wisdom, last will & testament, etc. etc.

as fer surfing w/ wtv... I quit trying that in '98 when I got a Pc and dsl.
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Re: Clearing your Webtv cache
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2008, 12:23:53 PM »

...and D.J. Mike.. you might be able to retrieve some old deleted pages at www.Archive.org ... esp. if you recall the page URL
The things I want back the most didn't have links to them.
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...as fer surfing w/ wtv... I quit trying that in '98 when I got a Pc and dsl.
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Has it been that long? Way back then, you could still use webtvon most sites. Now days, webtv is practicaly useless for surfing. Most pages are too big, have too complicated layout or have too much javascript.
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Re: Clearing your Webtv cache
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2008, 02:42:59 AM »

Has it been that long? Way back then, you could still use webtvon most sites.

Yes it's been that long since I 1st got dsl but I only just dropped the webtv this year.

BTW Nice avatar Sandy
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